Curse

ParanoidDenny · Sep 27, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by Antheus

You are stalking Anet employees over an in-game bug. That much I get.

Dude it's making the game unplayable, it's getting to the point of frustration, it worked before the Nightfall event so logic dictates the broke something in the process, i payed my money and i'm entitled to a fully working product, if they can't give me that then on quality grounds they should be held to task over the issue!!

Symir · Sep 27, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

/Signed

Especially annoying when monking and the Diversion/Prot Spirit/Spirit Bond/whatever animation doesn't show up.

Xx Cloud xX · Sep 27, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Hey Hey Hey
If the game is going broke what happens if they make it a 20$ fee per month.
i like guild wars cause there is no fee to the game buy the game and play.
you saying its going broke and if it is the might resort to that and make a fee like members on runescape and World of warcraft.
I dont want that and im sure other people wonty want it two.

Tachyon · Sep 27, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by Xx Cloud xX

If the game is going broke what happens if they make it a 20$ fee per month.

C'mon! You're an English speaking guy, you should know the difference the same word can have in this language.

Bloody Colonials!

silv3rr · Sep 27, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

C'mon! You're an English speaking guy, you should know the difference the same word can have in this language.

Bloody Colonials!

That and he should know to READ the opening post instead of just the title...

On-topic: I understand what the OP is saying and I'm also experiencing what he describes.

This is actually important in terms of gameplay because some people listen/watch to the effects of skills, letting them know what's going on around them without having to target the target in-order to see what they're casting. PvE wise, I listen for certain noises to get a feel of what's going on behind me - i.e. assassin monster somehow gets through and is attacking my PUG's casters. I listen for their teleporting noises. But by no means is the game not playable.

I wouldn't rush ANet personally. Considering the fact that they should be under some crazy stress at the moment (working out bugs and such for NF).

Hopefully Gaile would take a look at this thread and acknowledge the problem, at least we know they're aware of it.

Xx Cloud xX · Sep 27, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

I did read it.
some thinmg anout it going broke because u think the skill thing doent make that cool effect and sound that we so love.
and the thing about the skill bar got the hour glass thing.

bakaboiya · Sep 27, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17

/signed

yep, been getting this problem for a while now. my guess is it's related to the hourglass and their whole attempt to load skills/icons/sounds dynamically (possibly to save resources?). what i don't get is why they didn't revert back once they realized it was broke, which leads me to assume it was a long term change they planned with the introduction NF.

xXa1 · Sep 27, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

/signed

its annoying trying to guess what skill you're attempting to interrupt no to mention everything is sluggish lately.

sevosane · Sep 27, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by bakaboiya

/signed

yep, been getting this problem for a while now. my guess is it's related to the hourglass and their whole attempt to load skills/icons/sounds dynamically (possibly to save resources?). what i don't get is why they didn't revert back once they realized it was broke, which leads me to assume it was a long term change they planned with the introduction NF.

This was my question too. On the phone Gaile told me that because of everything going on, the weekend nightfall preview event, the getting ready for the nightfall preview event, the continued nightfall production development, they don't/didn't have the time to rush out a fix into production before having tested it fully, and that they absolutely would not rush something into production with the chance they break something else, although, they didn't have any problem rushing out the code that intially broke it to begin with.

So.. to some degree that makes sense, but it does NOT help you or me or the fact that now...It's 13 days and this still isn't fixed.

It's not right guys, but their mentality simply is that this is very low on the priority list, and they have more important things to do. IE. get nightfall out, and this that and the other..

ParanoidDenny · Sep 27, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

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Originally Posted by sevosane

It's not right guys, but their mentality simply is that this is very low on the priority list, and they have more important things to do. IE. get nightfall out, and this that and the other..

In other word's they're making sure they have the money from the sales of nightfall in their pocket and hang everything else!

sevosane · Sep 27, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by ParanoidDenny

In other word's they're making sure they have the money from the sales of nightfall in their pocket and hang everything else!

Ding. Ding. Ding.

Denny, this is EXACTLY what I'm saying.

I will give them until Next Monday, and if it's not fixed, then I am gonna buy the available web site called -> www.fixguildwars.com and have a petition that every one can do a quick stamp, make sure that all of the websites post that the site exists, and I know of two sites that will do this for sure for us on their front page. Maybe it could be title -> "Disgruntled Guild Wars fans not buying nightfall", then have a link to our site, then on the main front of the web page I'll explain exactly what's going on, and at the bottom you can click a stamp button and give your guild wars name, or whatever you want to tell ANET that we're not giving you any more of our hard earned money UNTIL you fix your game.

What does everyone think of that?

I don't know about you but I'm not giving them my usual 100 bucks (my copy and my son's copy) for something that doesn't work consistently.

Antheus · Sep 27, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

If you're willing to go through such great effort over a bug, it's a sure sign to turn off your computer, go out with your friends and family to a nice outing, relax, and re-think your priorities in life. Take your son to Disneyland or your neighbourhood entertainment of choice, go fishing or play basketball. But above all, let go of a computer game that frustrates you to such extent that you're willing to go to all such actions.

Especially since it's only 100 bucks for 2 copies of game.

ParanoidDenny · Sep 27, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

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Originally Posted by sevosane

Ding. Ding. Ding.

Denny, this is EXACTLY what I'm saying.

I will give them until Next Monday, and if it's not fixed, then I am gonna buy the available web site called -> www.fixguildwars.com and have a petition that every one can do a quick stamp, make sure that all of the websites post that the site exists, and I know of two sites that will do this for sure for us on their front page. Maybe it could be title -> "Disgruntled Guild Wars fans not buying nightfall", then have a link to our site, then on the main front of the web page I'll explain exactly what's going on, and at the bottom you can click a stamp button and give your guild wars name, or whatever you want to tell ANET that we're not giving you any more of our hard earned money UNTIL you fix your game.

What does everyone think of that?

I don't know about you but I'm not giving them my usual 100 bucks (my copy and my son's copy) for something that doesn't work consistently.

I'm with you on this 100% M8, so many errors these days and it's getting to the point where it's becoming extremely silly.
Logic dictates you can't put out another expansion until you've fixed the problems with the previous games, all this will do is carry the problems into the following expansion and make that unplayable.
IMO two expansions a year and two teams both designing independently is having an effect on the structure of the game, ANET are rushing and botching the game as a whole, for heavens sake one new release a year is enough, ANET the quality of the game is suffering, be ruled just this once!

Oren The Destroyer · Sep 27, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

/boycott anybody?

Infinity^ · Sep 27, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

/signed

So they bring out a new product, which attracts lots of new customers. But these customers are automaticaly put off the series because of the bugs that they haven't been bothered to fix?

"ARGH! I've got hourglass on me!"
"Ok, dont worry, I'll remove it with hourglass."
"Did it work?"
"Dunno, nothing happened! Do you still have hourglass on you?"
"Mate, I've got 3 hourglasses on me!"

Stranger The Ranger · Sep 27, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

/Signed

The damn hourglass...I killed myself once because I had Ineptitude on me...but I couldnt see it -.-

Ghozer · Sep 27, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

/Signed

I havent seen this hourglass thing your all talking about, but skill/spell cast animations not playing is a pain in the ass.. (such as the flame thingy when you hit sprint, 2 times out of 5, they dont show)

frojack · Sep 27, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

Oh god. You people are acting like it's the end of the world. Production is hectic. A very stressful time at the end of most projects. You were told (by friggin' phone no less) that they have other things to sort out first.

That's the bottom line. Get over it.

There is a reason Anet can survive and keep GW alive in the first place. That's by getting a product to market ON TIME. Not after they have fixed a few graphical problems in the present code. I shudder to think what you'd do to yourself if suddenly Anet had to call it quit's and shut the server's down.

Leave them alone and let them do their damn jobs, becuase in the end, all of you here and FAR more besides, will be even more pissed if Nightfall is late...

Disgruntled developer signing off.

TreeDude · Sep 27, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

I'm pretty sure they did this to increase performace on old machines. All they need to do is add the option to turn preloading back on. That way everyone can be happy.

sevosane · Sep 27, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by frojack

Leave them alone and let them do their damn jobs, becuase in the end, all of you here and FAR more besides, will be even more pissed if Nightfall is late...

Disgruntled developer signing off.

This is exactly what we are talking about frojack.

Game magazines punish game companies all the time.

For what?

For releasing a game that has more bugs in it than your grandma does in her house, and then a month later fix it with a patch.

Is this acceptable to you? Because from your quote, this is what I am hearing you say. I'm hearing you tell me that they need to get nightfall out and then they can just fix it later. come on man, think about what you're saying.

Is PCGamer ok to give a review 50% instead of just putting the patch on the game, THEN review it?

Seriously. Don't waste our time with this ridiculousness.

I, and my fellow gamers here, would MUCH rather they take 2 extra weeks to fix this and all the crashes and whatever else, and fix nightfall, because it has this EXACT same issue as this man, than they focus on making their millions and worry about fixing this in 3 games later.

This is just like a developer to say, "Oh, we'll just release it broke. No worries, we're all good, we'll eventually fix it".

I guess I shouldn't have expected anything else.

others with me on this one?